That's the sort of question that gets one either burnt at the stake as a heretic.

Much more of the original plans for Doom are revealed in book 3 and later.

Warlocks have long known to be puppets for demons and they typically do not collect mana for their masters. In fact, warlocks being wizards or aniwizards etc generally don't have any mechanism for collecting mana from worshipers. Could they? One supposes with a lot of time and practice, but as a rule that has not been what they do. The only way wizards have of exchanging mana is via Wizard Links used in joint spell casting etc. Like the wards or a summoning.

Shamans on the other hand, some of them do have rituals for harnessing group mana--see book 3 for a big example of this.

Uhm...yeah what you said...I think the second.

Not sure I can wrap my head around that as I have lot of smoke wrapped around my head at the moment.

The outer planes are not physical planes, but they are not as immaterial as the astral and aetherial planes. Just very different.

The aetherial planes are like shadows of the material worlds, and are directly connected to a physical/material universe.

The astral plane is one of pure spirit, about the safest place for someone with only an animabody to live, short of the outer planes.

If the aetherial planes are shadows, then the outer planes are reflections of the material planes, and like most reflection what is there depends upon the direction/angle/position you are looking and who is looking. However, it's not quite that simple, because the splintering of the multiverse creates multiple-facets each one of which may have a corresponding reflection in the outer planes, or perhaps some overlap. The gods understand this far better than I.

I'm just stuck in the Abyss. I would thus add to the argument in this thread, that part of what makes a god a god is an understanding of the outer planes and how to manipulate them.

Maybe a simple analogy would be that the outer planes are somewhat similar to your cyberspace and virtual environments. As reflections of the material world controlled and manipulated, they are to all intents and purposes "virtual worlds" and the gods are the programmers. The souls are the players, the avatars the game masters?

But that's a loose analogy; technically completely inaccurate, but....functionally not an incorrect way of thinking about it.

Gasp! (if I had lungs, that's EXACTLY the sound I'd make)

O.M.G. My corners are wiggling I'm so excited!

I believe the humans make this noise when really excited?

SQUEE!

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I think SQUEEE!!! is the noise someone makes when their loud squeal is abruptly cut off by shoving one of their various body parts down their throats.

I'm sure I musta heard it more than a few times over the millenia, but you know how it goes, one torture session blends into another.

In that case, you'd love Demon Twister, you are required to get an appendage on the colored dot, if you can't manage it, one of the Game Masters will assist by detaching a limb to place on the spot.

Hmm, so that's what the D'Orcs were playing with Lilith's demon army...

Yaaaas

re-read the books in preparation, and I've decided that i really want to know why the djinn refer to tiernon as 'the false god'

that and i want more tamarin story

but regardless, im ready for a new book in my life

Well, I can confirm Tamarin is certainly giving Tom the googly eyes.

Which is odd since she isn't wearing Google Glass, so I'm not sure how she's doing it, but she obviously is.

Rumor is that young Djinn, having never experienced the physical world before, are all quite anxious to explore the limits of physicality

I think Tom exploring the limits of physicality with Tamarin is definitely needed, it's a great stress reliever, and he definitely has a mountain a stressful things to worry about