Well, I kinda agree that the cover was a bit ugly but it is not exactly the ugliest I've seen. There are quite a lot of technical errors in the image that should have been addressed. At least some overpainting in photoshop should have been made.

Still I'm going to make a 3D art, had started already... and they are not neccisarily bad! Do you think just because you work in 2D your work would be beautiful? Both 3Dand 2D have their shares of ugly, traditional media have them too. It is really up to the artist how their work comes out.

By the way if you want to look for more great digital artworks try this site, it is one of the site I go often. It constantly inspires me:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=3

And great 3D works find them here:

http://forums.cgsociety.org/forumdisplay.php?f=121

Well, there is this capability of 3D. You can reuse the models. Get one, pose it, render. Pose it again, render. You can use such model again and again and again. Now, nothing is wrong with this, I will also make use of reusing models one day, but often times people are sloppy at reusing the models. Often they don't correct, alter, or do post work. Often the results are stiff and bizzare or outright freakish.

I also think it is not the over exposure but ignorance. When it comes to traditional work, people are very well acquainted to it. They know about Mona Lisa, Girl with the Pearl Earing, The Starry Night, Creation of Adam, etc. They even know the master artists who make them. There a lot of documentaries about them too. the general people just know a lot of these.

Contrast with 3D works. Being a new one on the feild, many people fail to recognize great 3d works as great examples of 3D works. They see them and fail to recognize what it is. Those gigantic dinosaurs? Godzilla? King Kong? Iron man suit? The Hulk? These are popular 3d works out there in the movies but many would fail to point them out when they think of 3D works.

When people talk about 3D most would think of those sloppy 3d works instead of those the often seen ones like movie posters (the Hulk, Transformers, Iron Man, Avatar), animated films (like Pixar and Dreamwoorks, love How to Train Your Dragon), IKEA catalogue (those pictures you see there are 3D renders), comercials (how about those talking toothbrushes?) or even Video games. Great 3D work abound they just fail to label them as 3D works.

On the other hand no one would pick their sisters drawing Sailor Moon, their own attemps of drawing human figure, or their school art project as traditional artwork examples but insist on exquisite ones like Mona Lisa, The Starry Night, and The Girl with the Pearl Earing as examples. They pick the best for traditional but choose the worst for 3D, so unfair.

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Yeay! This is a second try my first try got messed up so I scrap it. Still very rough. I'm minding my topologies so as not to messed up again.

I'm still not that experienced in modeling in 3d really and I messed so many times. Been more like experimenting than doing actual work. I try sculpting over this then retopo rather than completely building it by polygonal modeling. Or should I just do traditional poly modeling then just sculpt the fine details? Hmmm. I'll try both. As I say I'm experimenting.

As you can see, it is not exactly the demon in the book's cover though I took some ideas from there, especially the horns. The book cover demon looks a bit like a minotaur and I took it to that direction further. I also add a frill on the top of his head to the back of his neck. I was also thinking of scaling down the head to make the figure about 9 heads tall.

Tizzy. You know more about how Tom looks like. Some help? Maybe there should be something I need to change or add? Also what do you think about the wings? Should I make it bigger?

I haven't really made a hand for this model. I find it more easier to model the hands separately then attach it later. I also haven't made the tail because I still lacked geometry at the back. I have made a tail in my first attempt as the model was dense at that time but I messed up. The front tail... I was planning on not modeling it (like many other models) but might have been bad.

This figure is about 8 heads tall. And I'm talking about proportion not height. Cute anime characters are shorter, say about 4 to 5 heads tall. That is, their body is as tall as 4 to 5 times the height of their head. Chibi character are about 2 to 3 heads tall. Hello Kitty for example is two heads tall. Regular dude, 6 to 6 1/2 Ideal heroic proportion is about 7 1/2heads tall. Many comic super heroes is 8 heads tall. Some monster are 9 to 10 heads tall or even taller. The Hulk is one of the character that is often made over 8 heads tall nowdays.

So for Tom, I opt for 8 heads tall. That is a comic super hero proportion. I planned on making his head smaller puting him to the extremely exagerated proportion but gues not. Dont want to make his head bigger though because that would make him look move regular dude.

As you are not commenting on the wings, guess I get it right?

As for the modeling package, I'm using Blender. It is free and quite good in basic polygonal modeling.

BTW if you have not seen Legend, then you definitely should

It's old school special effects, not CGI and it is absolutely gorgeous....the story is a rather generic story book fantasy good vs evil with a hero and a damsel, and the hero is not a professional actor, he's played by Tom Cruise....

However, Darkness is Tim Curry and he is phenomenal....as are the other faerie creatures...

Is Darkness a reference for demon Tom? I don't think I seen the film before.

As for anatomy. Tom is already 12 feet tall, proportionally his head would also be larger, which means a roomier place for the brain. There should be no problem for the brain size in that area.

As for horns and big head, see this creature for a size:



compared to his more normal relatives:



I'll take a look at daz3d, though I already heard about it, just doesn't taken interest in it.

You also had a great point at "Movie Stars" not acting and playing a character. Some just doesn't play their characters right and just feels fake.

I wouldn't say Darkness is an inspiration for Tom, but definitely an influence.

Tom had seen Legend (and Labyrinth), and he'd also seen the original ADD Players Handbook with the budha demon on the cover...plus minotaurs, satyrs etc.

Yes, DAZ's content creation is a bit weak...they have/ate Carrarera which they drastically reduced the price on...but haven't done a lot to advance and that does creation better and Hexagon as well I believe.

They started out selling models and are probably the biggest or second biggest model store, www.renderosity.com being the major competitor as is www.runtimedna.com And of course ContentParadise for the Poser crowd...

As in the Monster Manual Type VI?

ADD MM I actually lists the Type VI as being Balors.

You mean dump your 3d thing and start building what? A new demon based on a Balor?